{"id":2084,"date":"2013-08-18T19:27:01","date_gmt":"2013-08-18T19:27:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/?p=2084"},"modified":"2013-08-18T19:27:01","modified_gmt":"2013-08-18T19:27:01","slug":"play-test-day-for-bear-yourselves-valiantly","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/?p=2084","title":{"rendered":"Play Test Day for Bear Yourselves Valiantly"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_2082\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2082\" style=\"width: 368px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1915.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-2082   \" title=\"IMGP1915\" src=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1915.jpg\" alt=\"The start of the War of the Roses play test\" width=\"368\" height=\"244\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1915.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1915-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1915-1024x678.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 368px) 100vw, 368px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2082\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The start of the War of the Roses play test<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This weekend five of the HAWKs got together for another play test of <em>Bear Yourselves Valiantly<\/em>. \u00a0In particular, we have been going back and forth about how many units can participate in a melee, when units get credit for overlapping another, when they get credit for a flank attack, etc.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1916.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-2085\" title=\"IMGP1916\" src=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1916-300x198.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1916-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1916-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1916.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In addition, we needed to test the rules for a different historical period &#8212; in this case the War of the Roses. \u00a0We assembled a small subset of the HAWKs &#8212; those who have been involved in the rules development beyond play testing &#8212; because this kind of play testing works better with a small group.<\/p>\n<p>Chris hasn&#8217;t painted all his figures yet, and I haven&#8217;t begun painting my 100 Years Wars figures. \u00a0He made bases with the correct labels that we used in place of bases with figures. \u00a0While not aesthetically pleasing, it worked just fine.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2078\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2078\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1917.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2078\" title=\"IMGP1917\" src=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1917-300x198.jpg\" alt=\"War of the Roses armies lined up for the start of the game\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1917-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1917-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1917.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2078\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">War of the Roses armies lined up for the start of the game<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>We spent 45 minutes discussing outstanding rules issues, then began. \u00a0About 90 minutes into the first game, it was obvious that what we had discussed about overlapping units wasn&#8217;t working. \u00a0So we stopped and discussed it some more. \u00a0After another half hour, Duncan came up with the answer.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2080\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2080\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1918.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2080\" title=\"IMGP1918\" src=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1918-300x198.jpg\" alt=\"We used cardboard bases with the correct labels even though we didn't have the figures painted yet.\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1918-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1918-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1918.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2080\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">We used cardboard bases with the correct labels even though we didn&#39;t have the figures painted yet.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The challenge has been that we&#8217;ve restricted unit movement in the ancient version, so the rules for matching up units in melee from the other rules in the family didn&#8217;t work. \u00a0We need units to get credit for overlapping around the edge of enemy units when multiple units were attacking without breaking the overall systems. \u00a0In the end, we decided that only one unit may attack each face of an enemy base. If more than one unit is attacking the same face, only one attacking unit rolls, but it applies a +1 &#8220;overlap&#8221; modifier to the die roll. \u00a0While this may sound a little goofy, it works really well on the table.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2079\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2079\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1919.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2079\" title=\"IMGP1919\" src=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1919-300x198.jpg\" alt=\"The start of a Roman vs. Carthaginian game\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1919-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1919-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1919.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2079\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The start of a Roman vs. Carthaginian game<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>After we completed the War of the Roses game we set up a Romans vs. Carthaginians game and played again.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2083\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2083\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1920.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2083\" title=\"IMGP1920\" src=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1920-300x198.jpg\" alt=\"An early view of the Roman vs. Carthaginian game\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1920-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1920-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1920.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2083\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">An early view of the Roman vs. Carthaginian game<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Not only did we get a lot of work done on finicky aspects of the rules design, but we had a good time.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2077\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2077\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1921.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2077\" title=\"IMGP1921\" src=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1921-300x198.jpg\" alt=\"Measuring a move for a base of elephants\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1921-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1921-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1921.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2077\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Measuring a move for a base of elephants<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2081\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2081\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1925.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2081\" title=\"IMGP1925\" src=\"http:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1925-300x198.jpg\" alt=\"Romans circling around Celts in the woods\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1925-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1925-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bucksurdu.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMGP1925.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2081\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Romans circling around Celts in the woods<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class='shareinpost'><ul class=\"socialwrap row\"><li class=\"iconOnly\"><a  rel='nofollow'  target='_blank'  title='Share this post : Play Test Day for Bear Yourselves Valiantly on Linkedin'  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